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5 February 2018

 

 

 

 

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8 Thomas SHORT

9 Thomas SHORT ?c1660->1700

 


 

m Jane WALBECK 1686

 

 

 

 

 

THOMAS was probably born around 1660, but his baptism has not been identified.  He became a weaver and married Jane WALBECK at Allhallows London Wall in 1686

 

Thomas and Jane baptised six children at Stepney St Dunstan between 1687 and 1701.  During this time they lived at various address incuding Pettycoat Lane in 1691.

 

 

 

EVENTS

 

           age

   DATE   TS JW

 

                       EVENT

?   c1660     

 7Jul1686 26  

18Mar1687 27  

21Feb1689 29  

 6Dec1691 31  

20Nov1694 34  

15Dec1697 37  

19Jun1701 41  

Thomas born

Thomas SHORT & Jane WALBECK m at Allhallows London Wall

dau Martha baptised at St Dunstan; Thomas a weaver at Nicholas St

dau Elizabeth born; baptised at St Dunstan 16 days later; Thomas a weaver at Phenix St

son Thomas baptised at St Dunstan; Thomas a weaver at Pettycoat Lane

son William born; baptised at St Dunstan 12 days later; Thomas a weaver at Pellam St

dau Jane born; baptised at St Dunstan the next day; Thomas a weaver at Pellam St

dau Rebecca baptised at St Dunstan

 

 

PRINCIPAL RECORDS

                                                                                                                                            b=born  m=married  d=died

                                                                                                                                            C=Christened       B=Buried

BIRTH

 

The known baptisms of Thomas-9's children occurred between 1687 and 1697at St Dunstan, Stepney.  It is probable therefore that he was born between 1650 and 1670 but could be earlier.   There is only one suitable baptism at St Dunstan :

 

m 16Feb1641 Ringan  SHORT & Isabell JOBSON at St George Southwark [no extra info in register]
B  3Sep1642 Isabell SHORT wife of Ringing Short of Prusons Island [Wapping] at St Dunstan Stepney
m 18May1643 Ringan  SHORT & Elizabeth HILL at St George, Southwark [no extra info in register]

C 10Mar1650 Jane   d Ringing SHORT of Kingstreet, mariner, & Elizabeth uxor, 7 days
C 27May1652 Thomas s Ringen SHORT of Foxes Lane mariner & Elizabeth uxor, 1 day
d   1653-54 Ringen  SHORT died beyond the seas (Acts of Administration)

 

The records show that Thoms' father, Ringan, was a mariner who died shortly after Thomas was born. Ringen is a Scandinavian surname but no other Ringen records found. 

The baptism of Thomas to Richard and Mary 12Feb1657 at St Dunstan, sometimes indexed as SHORT was actually to SHORTHOSE in the original register

A Thomas SHORT was married in Stepney in 1656.  But no children of this marriage have been identified anywhere.
m 12May1656 Thomas Short 30 & Jane Mayhew 20
This record comes from an index, and the original has not been seen (The marriage register for Stepney St Dunstan is missing 1653-58):

A Thomas SHORTE died in 1669 and his will names his wife Margaret and son Thomas. He was a clothworker and citizen of London. The will was proved on 28 May by Margaret. No other address is given, but being wealthy enough to make a will, he may be the Thomas SHORTE of Christopher Alley listed in the Hearth Tax for Tower Hamlets (undated c1670) with 9 hearths. This number of hearths indicates a relatively wealthy man so perhaps he is the Thomas SHORTE who made the 1969 wills. His son Thomas would have been of age to inherit so born before 1648. He could be the Thomas who married Jane Walbeck in 1686 though he would have been at least 38 at marriage.
Neither the marriage of Thomas and Margaret nor the baprism of their son Thomas has been identified. The Thomas who married Margaret Wright widow at St Dunstan in 1626 was a mariner, so not the Thomas of the will

 

Thus there are only two known Thomas Short born at an appropriate time but of opposites in wealth:

  1. the son of Ringen Short. Ringen was a mariner not a weaver, but Thomas was baptised at St Dunstan. Thomas named his second daughter Elizabeth - after his mother?

  2. son of Thomas citizen and clothworker. Thomas was in the right trade, but location uncertain - possibly Tower Hamlets. Baptism not found.

Whether either of these is the correct Thomas is uncertain, but option 1 seems more likely at present. St Dunstan parish records might throw more light

MARRIAGE

 

It is presently assumed that Thomas-8 was baptised at St Dunstan in 1691, son of Thomas, weaver of Pettycoat Lane and Jane. Other baptisms to Thomas and Jane have been found starting in 1687. Only one suitable marriage has been found to Thomas and Jane prior to 1690:

 

m  7Jul1686 Thomas SHORT & Jane WALBECK at Allhallows London Wall

 

there is no extra information in the parish register, but the name and date suggests that this is the correct marriage, though Allhallows is over a mile from Stepney

 

DESCENDANTS

other children of Thomas & Jane christened at St Dunstan:

 

C 18Mar1687 Martha    d Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Nicholas St, ? days old

C  9Mar1689 Elizabeth d Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Phenix St, 16? days old

C  6Dec1691 Thomas    s Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Pettycoat Lane, weaver ? days old

C  2Dec1694 William   s Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Pellam St, 12 days old

C 16Dec1697 Jane      d Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Pellam St, 1 day

C 19Jun1701 Rebecca   d Thomas & Jane SHORT, weaver, Pellam St, 1 day

 

 

DEATH

 

Burials of Thomas Short at St Dunstan in 1724, 1734, 1744

 

B 15Nov1724 Thomas SHORT of MNT wea [=weaver]
B 18Feb1734 Thomas SHORT of MNT wea [=weaver]
B 27Sep1744 Thomas SHORT of BG died at Guy's Hospital 40 consumption

 

it is suggested that Thomas -8 died in 1724, leaving the 1734 burial as a possibility for Thomas-9 though were he born in 1652 he would be 82 at death

 

 

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